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#75818: "Allow food conversion and rearranging animals at any time (not only when it's your turn)"

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2022 15 Nov 11:40 • tr2222 • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

This functionality would not break the rules, which state:
"You may rearrange your animals on your Home board whenever and how often you like as long as you abide by the following rules." and "To feed your Dwarfs, you may convert goods into Food at any time (without constraints). "

Another solution would be to perform the harvest phase simultaneously, which was rejected before because the decision of one player might influence other players.
I added a comment to the other proposal request, because i didn't find the spot in the rules that states the harvest phase should be played one after another player.

2022 15 Nov 11:42 • Tisaac • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

Hum, you can always exchange food during your last action before harvest, no ?
Also, animals reorganization is automatic, it only need human action if you don't have enough room for them.
So yeah that could speed the game a bit, but not sure it's worth the complexity of code.

2022 15 Nov 17:12 • ibejohn25 • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

During my last turn on board #317674956 I used the exploration file to obtain a cow and a sheep but was told I had to cook the sheep. If I had been able to rearrange my animals that would not have been needed. I had not managed to rearrange my animals before that turn after trying a couple of timez. I was using a Kindle Fire with its Silk browser.

2022 15 Nov 17:17 • Tisaac • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

@ibejohn25: you can always reorganize when you get new animals, please read the tour.

2022 25 Nov 04:33 • GirlAgent99 • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

Again the rule states "You may rearrange your animals on your Home board whenever and how often you like as long as you abide by the following rules." and "To feed your Dwarfs, you may convert goods into Food at any time (without constraints)."

Which also means you should never have to discard an animal. After Breeding, if you have too many animals and not enough space, you would immediately convert them into Food.

This is not Agricola, where they wander off and you lose the benefit of breeding completely.

2022 25 Nov 07:56 • Tisaac • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

And that's simply not true, the same rule about not cooking babies/parents is also in Caverna

2023 4 Feb 14:37 • borealsunflower • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

Although true that one can exchange food on the last action before harvest, this does not include the crops that will be harvested at the end of the turn. These crops are sometimes needed for feeding. If all players could exchange for food simultaneously during harvest (as the rules indicate), that would speed up especially turn based games significantly.

2023 4 Apr 04:59 • ChronicB Gamer • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

I agree, when it is not your turn pressing a button to opt in for rearranging or killing your animals, spending gems etc would be great! And simultaneous at round end with a wait till previous player(s) has finished button would vastly improve the game.
I know its a fair amount more programming but it would be enough to make me play it much more because the down time on others turn in this game can suck, especially when you can see, oh i want to just move those animals over there while I wait but I can't.

2024 8 Jan 21:42 • ddubois • הצעה זו לא נותחה על ידי היזמים עדיין:

I have upvoted this suggestion.

I would be satisfied if instead of "anytime", conversions and rearranging were simultaneous only during the harvest phase. Permitting other players to make swooshing noises and movements during your turn could be distracting while you are trying to think.

That said, the current situation of forcing you to wait while 2-6 other player perform their conversions 1-by-1 explode the playtime in such a way that is insufferable. This might be the only game where I think live play could beat BGA for playtime, and it's entirely for this reason. The expected playtime for a BGA 4 player game is reported as 2:40, and the harvest phase is probably contributing 30 minutes to that total.

The argument that someone might change their harvest based on my harvest is such an infinitely narrow use case, I fail to recognize the validity of the argument. At the very least, simultaneous harvests could be an option, and the current "excruciating mode" should be made a non-default toggle.

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