#70334: ""Fast version"?"
על מה דוח זה?
מה קרה? אנא בחר מהרשימה מטה
מה קרה? אנא בחר מהרשימה מטה
בבקשה בדוק אם יש כבר דוח על אותו נושא
אם כן, הצביעו בעד הדיווח הזה, דיווחים עם הכי הרבה קולות נחקרים ראשונים
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תיאור מפורט
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• אנא העתק/הדבק את הודעת השגיאה המופיעה במסך, אם יש כזו.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• בבקשה הסבר מה רצית לעשות,מה עשית ומה קרה
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• בבקשה העתק והדבק את הטקסט המוצג באנגלית במקום בשפה שלך. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. האם טקסט זה זמין במערכת התרגום? אם כן, האם היא תורגמה במשך יותר מ -24 שעות?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• אנא הסבר את ההצעה שלך במדויק ותמצית כדי שיהיה קל ככל האפשר להבין למה אתה מתכוון.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• מה הוצג על המסך כאשר נחסמה (מסך ריק? חלק ממשק המשחק? הודעת שגיאה?)
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• איזה חלק של הכללים לא היה מכובד על ידי עיבוד BGA
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• האם אפשר לראות את הפרת החוק בשידור החוזר? אם כן, באיזה מספר מהלך?
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• מה היה המהלך במשחק שרצית לבצע?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• מה ניסית לעשות שגרם לפעולה הזו
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• מה קרה כאשר את/ה מנסה לעשות את זה (הודעת שגיאה, הודעת פס סטטוס משחק, ...)?
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• באיזה שלב במשחק הבעייה קרתה (מה היו ההוראות הנכונות)
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• מה קרה כאשר את/ה מנסה לבצע פעולת משחק (הודעת שגיאה, הודעת פס סטטוס משחק, ...)?
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• אנא תאר/י את הנושא המוצג. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• בבקשה העתק והדבק את הטקסט המוצג באנגלית במקום בשפה שלך. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. האם טקסט זה זמין במערכת התרגום? אם כן, האם היא תורגמה במשך יותר מ -24 שעות?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
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• אנא הסבר את ההצעה שלך במדויק ותמצית כדי שיהיה קל ככל האפשר להבין למה אתה מתכוון.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Mozilla v5
היסטוריית דיווחים
1) faster
2) every beginning is different, giving a (false?) sense of variety
3) I guess not terribly complicated to implement
Cons:
1) not the classic game
2) not sure how to avoid possible bias toward one or the other players
I'm sure the 2/3 of the game seems aimless to the non-initiated (to whom I more or less belong too, so I know rather well the feeling).
1) When discussing the details of the pie rule with the top DnB players on Little Golem (where arguably the strongest living DnB players meet), it has been implied that after the first approx. 5 moves of a 5x5 game (60 moves) the game is often already +/- oriented toward one of the player. In fact who plays first in the 5x5 game IS already winning (this is why I have implemented, as far as I know for the first time in the history of this game, a pie rule).
But this is simply a matter of not being very familiar with the strategy of the game. I have a very similar feeling while playing Chess (in which I am less than simply non-initiated!). Would you suggest a Chess implementation in which the first _n_ moves are random?
2) The second con you quote (how to avoid favouring either player with random moves) is a BIG con: in practice those 15 random moves (out of 60) would decide the game instead of the players! This would transform the game from a random-free, total information game into an almost purely chance game.
These are the major reasons why I deeply disagree with this (ingenuous!) proposal; I'm sure over time I could think of others!
thx for the explanation and ur time
W.
www.docdroid.net/2Ch8voZ/dots-boxes-5x5-pdf#page=3
הוסף לדוח הזה
- מספר שולחן/מהלך אחר
- האם לחיצה על F5 פתר את הבעיה?
- האם הבעיה הופיע כמה פעמים? בכל פעם? באופן אקראי?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
