#158400: "Game progression start at 50% and ends at 65%, but should start at 0% and end at 100%"
על מה דוח זה?
מה קרה? אנא בחר מהרשימה מטה
מה קרה? אנא בחר מהרשימה מטה
בבקשה בדוק אם יש כבר דוח על אותו נושא
אם כן, הצביעו בעד הדיווח הזה, דיווחים עם הכי הרבה קולות נחקרים ראשונים
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תיאור מפורט
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• אנא העתק/הדבק את הודעת השגיאה המופיעה במסך, אם יש כזו.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• בבקשה הסבר מה רצית לעשות,מה עשית ומה קרה
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• בבקשה העתק והדבק את הטקסט המוצג באנגלית במקום בשפה שלך. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. האם טקסט זה זמין במערכת התרגום? אם כן, האם היא תורגמה במשך יותר מ -24 שעות?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• אנא הסבר את ההצעה שלך במדויק ותמצית כדי שיהיה קל ככל האפשר להבין למה אתה מתכוון.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• מה הוצג על המסך כאשר נחסמה (מסך ריק? חלק ממשק המשחק? הודעת שגיאה?)
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• איזה חלק של הכללים לא היה מכובד על ידי עיבוד BGA
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• האם אפשר לראות את הפרת החוק בשידור החוזר? אם כן, באיזה מספר מהלך?
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• מה היה המהלך במשחק שרצית לבצע?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• מה ניסית לעשות שגרם לפעולה הזו
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• מה קרה כאשר את/ה מנסה לעשות את זה (הודעת שגיאה, הודעת פס סטטוס משחק, ...)?
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• באיזה שלב במשחק הבעייה קרתה (מה היו ההוראות הנכונות)
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• מה קרה כאשר את/ה מנסה לבצע פעולת משחק (הודעת שגיאה, הודעת פס סטטוס משחק, ...)?
• מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• אנא תאר/י את הנושא המוצג. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• בבקשה העתק והדבק את הטקסט המוצג באנגלית במקום בשפה שלך. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. האם טקסט זה זמין במערכת התרגום? אם כן, האם היא תורגמה במשך יותר מ -24 שעות?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
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• אנא הסבר את ההצעה שלך במדויק ותמצית כדי שיהיה קל ככל האפשר להבין למה אתה מתכוון.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • מה הדפדפן שלך?
Safari v18.3
היסטוריית דיווחים
1. At game start, progression should be 0%.
2. The wolfes can only move forward. That limit each wolf to a maximum of 7 moves. The wolf player has 4 pawns, so they can move not more than 28 times,
3. The sheep can move forward and backward. The does not limit the number of moves. But as both players move one after the other, the sheep player can not have more turns that the wolf player (plus 1 move, if the sheep player is the starting player). So, there could not be more than 57 moves in a single game. => Each turn should increase the progress by at least 1.75 (which is 1/57).
4. At the end of the game, the progress should be set to 100%. This should be done when the winner is announced. Note, that the game announces the winner, as soon as it is obvious that the sheep can not be blocked any more, even so the official win condition has not been met.
That would be a simple calculation of progression. It would cause a big step for the last turn of the game, but it at least takes into account how many tuns are possible if both players behave as if they need to do as much moves as possible. (Not sure, if you could detect situations, where black gets stuck and cannot move all 4 black pawns to the last line of the board.)
1. The first version of the game was using a 0% progress at start, but I was asked to change to 50% at start like other BGA abstract games (chess or something like that) in order to let players CONCEDE as fast as possible.
(See ticket #101827 : boardgamearena.com/bug?id=101827.)
2+3. Yes it is used to compute the progress from 50% to 100%
4. To analyze
הוסף לדוח הזה
- מספר שולחן/מהלך אחר
- האם לחיצה על F5 פתר את הבעיה?
- האם הבעיה הופיע כמה פעמים? בכל פעם? באופן אקראי?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
